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Sell More While Spending Less Through Channels with Stewart Townsend, Channel as a Service
20 May 202165 min

Sell More While Spending Less Through Channels

with Stewart Townsend, Channel as a Service

In today’s episode, Stewart Townsend takes us on a journey exploring what it took for him to transform his idea into a mature business. He shares insights on how you can sell more while spending and hiring less through channels. Tune in to learn more about channels and how you can start using them to grow your business.

Stewart Townsend is the founder of Channel as a Service, and he is on his journey towards 8-figures. He helps grow companies by guiding them in setting up indirect sales forces, also known as channels.  Previously, Stewart held leadership roles at ZenDesk, DataSift, and Sun Microsystems.

What channels are in their simplest form?

“You have a product and you want to get it to a consumer or a business. How you get it there at the lowest cost is just a method. That method is you hire a lot of direct salespeople and do a lot of marketing. Or you can blend that with going through affiliates, referrals, resellers, third parties, etc. Give them a cut of the margin, pay them something, and get that deal in. Affiliates are just a powerful mechanism to get a product out to a market at a low cost.” – Stewart Townsend

How channels help SaaS businesses grow?

In a SaaS (Software as a Service) business, an indirect sales force refers to a sales model that relies on third-party partners, resellers, or channel partners to sell and distribute the company’s software products or services to end customers.

Instead of selling directly, SaaS companies partner with these indirect sales forces to expand its market reach, drive sales and drive business growth. These channel partners, which can include resellers, systems integrators, or consultants, bring industry expertise, established customer relationships, and market reach.

By leveraging these partnerships, the SaaS company gains access to new customer segments, geographical regions, and industry verticals that it may not have reached directly. Also, the company provides support, training, and incentives to its indirect sales forces, while also tracking their performance and maintaining strong relationship management. This indirect sales model allows the SaaS company to scale its business and benefit from the expertise and customer relationships of its channel partners.

On today’s episode: 

  • How today’s show is different – 00:57
  • Stewart’s journey: from selling steel to million-dollar deals with Spotify – 03:49
  • Oracle didn’t believe in startups 11 years ago – 07:42
  • Living corporate life and start-up life at the same time – 10:04 
  • An offer he can’t refuse to have enough of it – 11:58 
  • How Stewart found his way after losing his savings – 14:33 
  • What is channel building? – 18:41
  • Why you shouldn’t pay attention to the misinformation around channels – 19:30 
  • How did the business take off? (there was no grand plan) – 21:35 
  • What is Stewart’s vision for his business…and why he is not exiting- 25:07 
  • How Stewart sets himself up for a nomadic lifestyle – 29:42 
  • Do you have to be young to be nomadic? – 33:28 
  • How products transform from their original purpose – 34:28 
  • Revolutionary video service that will save you days of work – 35:21  
  • Write like this if you are making videos – 37:09 
  • How Stewart automates his content cycle – 37:54 
  • How channels help you scale your business and reduce your costs – 39:38 
  • How much you can grow your revenue through channels – 41:52 
  • What you need before you can start using channels – 42:43 
  • One of the first things that ever went viral – 46:00 
  • Before any company invests in you, you need to have this – 47:13 
  • What are the points? – 49:14 
  • How are multiple routes to market created (the marketplace model)? – 51:44 
  • How you can now create a one-man million-dollar business – 54:23 
  • Is it still true that 80% of businesses fail? – 55:31 
  • What today’s fast entrepreneurship culture needs – 58:36 
  • How to get on a free call with Stewart – 1:01:16 

Key Takeaways: 

  • You have more of an impact working within entrepreneurial spaces than you do in large corporations. 
  • At corporate spaces you get marching orders with instructions telling you what to do, in software, as a service startup space there is more experimentation and excitement 
  • It takes longer than 6 months to start driving revenue through channels when you are starting from scratch; founders have difficulty understanding this strategically. 
  • Using channels is basically selling through third parties (affiliates, resellers, distributors) – it is an indirect sale. 
  • Channels are looked at as second class, this is a misconception. Affiliates are a powerful mechanism to get a product out to a market at a low cost.
  • At its core, channels are about relationship building and strategic development 
  • 90% of Microsoft’s business goes through a channel, top corporations are heavily involved in selling through a channel 
  • Channels are a way to grow revenue without growing a headcount around that revenue. 
  • You can expect 23% more revenue within one year when using channels 
  • Companies who want to use channels must have a belief that indirect sales will add value to their business. 
  • Your customers tell you who your partners should be. 
  • Marketplace models such as Shopify reduce barriers to entry and make life easier for entrepreneurs. However, this makes it more competitive to come out on top. That being said, each person defines what success means to them. For some people, setting up a lifestyle business and being happy is the success they aim for. 
  • Without structure, methods, and processes that you can repeat, it is very hard to grow as a business. 

Have you used channels before? Have you seen success using them? Tell us in the comments and don’t forget to say hello if you would like to share your entrepreneurship story on our podcast. 

Connect with Stewart Townsend:

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Have you used channels before? Have you seen success using them? Tell us in the comments and don’t forget to say hello if you would like to share your entrepreneurship story on our podcast.

Episode highlights:

  • How today’s show is different – 00:57
  • Stewart’s journey: from selling steel to million-dollar deals with Spotify – 03:49
  • Oracle didn’t believe in startups 11 years ago – 07:42
  • Living corporate life and start-up life at the same time – 10:04 
  • An offer he can’t refuse to have enough of it – 11:58 
  • How Stewart found his way after losing his savings – 14:33 
  • What is channel building? – 18:41
  • Why you shouldn’t pay attention to the misinformation around channels – 19:30 
  • How did the business take off? (there was no grand plan) – 21:35 
  • What is Stewart’s vision for his business…and why he is not exiting- 25:07 
  • How Stewart sets himself up for a nomadic lifestyle – 29:42 
  • Do you have to be young to be nomadic? – 33:28 
  • How products transform from their original purpose – 34:28 
  • Revolutionary video service that will save you days of work – 35:21  
  • Write like this if you are making videos – 37:09 
  • How Stewart automates his content cycle – 37:54 
  • How channels help you scale your business and reduce your costs – 39:38 
  • How much you can grow your revenue through channels – 41:52 
  • What you need before you can start using channels – 42:43 
  • One of the first things that ever went viral – 46:00 
  • Before any company invests in you, you need to have this – 47:13 
  • What are the points? – 49:14 
  • How are multiple routes to market created (the marketplace model)? – 51:44 
  • How you can now create a one-man million-dollar business – 54:23 
  • Is it still true that 80% of businesses fail? – 55:31 
  • What today’s fast entrepreneurship culture needs – 58:36 
  • How to get on a free call with Stewart – 1:01:16 
Connect with Stewart Townsend:

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      39:22

      Creating Generational Wealth with Mike Boyd, The Business of Family

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      47:38

      Driving Profit with Mergers and Acquisitions with Jeremy Harbour, The Harbour Club

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      45:29

      Using Delegation to Drive Business Growth with Chris Ronzio, Trainual

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      36:15

      The Life-Changing Impact Of Mission-Driven Companies with Nick Desai, HeyRenee

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      46:03

      Why Personal Growth Is The Cornerstone Of Business Success With Russ Perry, Design Pickle

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      44:00

      Fighting Climate Change With Finance and Technology Solutions With Alex Wright-Gladstein, Sphere

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      42:22

      Giving Up Control For Greater Business Growth With Brett Gilliland, Elite Entrepreneurs

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      39:51

      Using Intelligent Debates To Drive Innovation With Clea Conner, Intelligence Squared US Debates

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      48:24

      Aligning Your Team With The Company’s Vision with Kathy Hannun, Dandelion Energy

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      36:20

      Building An Effective Brand Strategy with Ray Mendez, Masa&Boz

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      48:36

      Seamless Process Automation for Smarter Business Growth With Neeti Mehta Shukla, Automation Anywhere

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      30:29

      What if Your Business Was Your Joy Box? With Amy Ransdell, REVA Global

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      42:22

      Your Business Needs You To Go On Vacation with A.J. Lawrence, Beyond 8 Figures

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      30:49

      What Does It Mean to Build an Intention-led Business with A.J. Lawrence, Beyond 8 Figures

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      52:11

      Establishing Financial Well-Being as an Entrepreneur with Henry Daas, FQ: Financial Intelligence

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      1:06:09

      Building A Stronger Business By Doing Less With Pete Martin, AskMyBoard

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      41:46

      Building a First to Market Business with Marcello Leone, Bevcanna

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      44:50

      Turning Leads into Customers with Shaun Clark, High Level

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      53:09

      Hack Business Growth By Building a Product You Would Use with Jeff Epstein, Onboard.io

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      38:50

      How Being Flexible Can Trigger Business Growth with A.J. Lawrence

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      49:24

      Building a People-First Company with Natalie Nagele, Wildbit

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      46:54

      Ending Poverty Through Entrepreneurship with Dr. Velma Trayham, Thinkzilla

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      26:27

      Build a Better Business Using Psychology with Aaron Hurst, Imperative

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      40:42

      What Does the Future of Work Look Like with Stephanie Nadi Olson

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      44:25

      Making the Most of Your Entrepreneurial Journey with A.J. Lawrence

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      30:13

      Sell More While Spending Less Through Channels with Stewart Townsend

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      1:05:26

      This episode is about YOU (a 5-minute update)

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      6:11

      Make Acquisition A Part Of Your Strategy with Walker Deibel

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      38:27

      Why Outsourcing Work Will Help Grow Your Business with Kevin Ashcroft

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      43:13

      How To 7X Your Business’ Value with John Warrillow

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      35:29

      Build an Exit Strategy Mindset Today with Mac Lackey

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      40:07

      The Rise of Acquisition Entrepreneurship with Parham Parastaran

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      57:27

      Gaining Clarity as an Entrepreneur with Matthew Korban

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      59:38

      How to Delegate Work and Hire Effectively with Nathan Hirsch

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      40:03

      How to Have a Happy Life as an Entrepreneur with Will Moore

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      44:02

      Creating Owner Independence with David Finkel

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      1:08:13

      Creating an 8-figure Business in the Renewable Energy Industry with Marek Zmyslowski

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      1:19:06

      How to Grow and Scale Your Business with Chris Guerriero

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      1:17:03

      Share What You Know With the World with Mitch Russo

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      58:19

      It Starts Inside You with Adam Hergenrother

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      1:13:19

      Experience Outweighs Enthusiasm Every Time with Steven Sashen, Xero Shoes

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      1:33:13

      Get a Clear Picture of What You Actually Do with Jonny Cooper

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      35:41

      Use Consumer Accessibility to Your Advantage with David Schottenstein

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      35:40

      Scale Your Business by Knowing the “Why” with Diane Prince

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      52:39

      Our Vision For Beyond 8 Figures

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      30:11

      We Bought B8F!

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      31:01

      8 Figures with Matthew Korban from protecting his house with a rifle in Lebanon to an award winning business

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      27:24

      $321 Million Dollar Exit From Restaurant Delivery, Will Moore CEO of Moore Momentum

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      59:52

      $300M+ Houston Curtis, The Billion Dollar Hollywood Heist

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      1:08:39

      $100 Million Business | Marek Zmyslowski, Investing in Africa

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      59:13

      $10M+ | Mac Lackey Started, Scaled & Sold 6 Businesses and Raised Over $75 Million in Capital

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      1:03:51

      $10M+ 2 Businesses – Susie Carder, CEO | SD Consulting

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      1:00:32

      $10M+ Annual Revenue – Annie Hyman Pratt, CEO | Executive Consultant Leading Edge Teams |The Coffee Bean & Tea Leaf Family

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      53:36

      $10+ Million in Annual Revenue – Rich Schefren, Strategic Profits

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      53:38

      $10+ Million in Annual Revenue – Rod Khleif, Lifetime Cash Flow Podcast

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      53:16

      $11.5 Million Annual Revenue – Nick Bogacz, Caliente Pizza & Drafthouse

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      53:17

      $18M Exit, Chris Guerriero, Executive Fitness Club

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      52:04

      $10M+ Exits – David Finkel, Multiple Companies

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      53:17

      $100M+ Exit – Minnie Ingersoll, Shift

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      53:57

      Rebecca Costa, Dazai Advertising Inc.

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      54:07

      $10M in Annual Revenue – TK Kader, ToutApp

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      54:15

      Recapping the Quarter

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      24:08

      Steve Olsher, Liquor.com

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      25:58

      $140M in Revenue – Dave Woodward, ClickFunnels

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      54:17

      $100M Exits – Kevin Harrington, several companies

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      54:18

      $200M+ Annually – Chris Cicchinelli, Pure Romance

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      53:41

      $20M Annually – Dr. Angela Lauria, The Author Incubator

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      54:11

      $50M Exit – David Schottenstein, Astor & Black

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      54:16

      $13M in Annual Revenue – Steven Sashen, Xero Shoes

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      54:18

      $37M+ in Revenue – Adam Hergenrother, Adam Hergenrother Companies

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      54:23

      $16M+ in Revenue – Doug Morneau, Real Marketing Real Fast

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      54:17

      $100M+ in Annual Revenue – Klee Irwin, Irwin Naturals

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      54:19

      $50M+ in Annual Revenue – Dr. Lori Barr, The Doctor’s Mentor

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      54:18

      $100M+ Exits and IPOs – Kenneth Aldrich, multiple companies

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      54:17

      $2.5B+ in Assets – Dwayne Clark, Aegis Living

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      54:18

      $300M+ in Revenue – Cameron Mitchell, Cameron Mitchell Restaurants

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      54:17

      $1B+ in Assets – Andres Pira, Blue Horizon Developments

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      54:14

      $20M+ in Annual Revenue – Steve Gray, Primal Labs

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      54:16

      $5B Exits – Jeff Saling, Exited 3 Companies

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      54:16

      $10M+ in Annual Revenue – Aaron Young Runs Multiple Companies

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      54:18

      $80M+ Exit – Michael Coles, Great American Cookie Company

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      36:56

      $10M+ in Annual Revenue – Nathan Hirsch, Freee Up

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      39:57

      $10M+ Exit – Mark Timm Exited 7 Businesses

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      49:13

      $10M+ in annual revenue – Chalene Johnson

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      50:58

      Being resourceful with Michael Houlihan, Barefoot Wines

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      54:16

      $10M+ in annual revenue – Ryan Levesque, ASK Method

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      54:16

      $40M+ in annual revenue – Tony Falkenstein, Just Water Intl.

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      54:18

      $25M in annual revenue – Kisha Mays, Just Fearless

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      54:18

      $40M Exit – Frank Shamrock, Strike Force

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      54:17

      $10M+ in annual revenue – Jonathan Cronstedt Runs Kajabi

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      54:17

      $10M+ in annual revenue – Garrett White Runs Wake Up Warrior Which Generates

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      54:17

      $30M in annual revenue – Mark Evans, American Wealth Builders, Cash Flow Lead Gen

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      54:42

      $30M in annual revenue – Mike O’Hagan, MiniMovers, Shore360, and MikesBusinessTours

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      54:41

      $10M in annual revenue – Lee Richter, Richter Communication & Design Group

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      54:41

      $10M in annual revenue – Nyasha Gwatidzo, Banya

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      30:35

      $10M+ Exit –  Parham Parastaran, Car-X Tire and Auto

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      54:19

      $10M Exit – Björn Öste, Dynasoft

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      54:16

      $2B Exit – Stuart Taylor, Taylor Nelson and Associates

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      54:17

      $10M+ Exit – Chip Conley, Joie de Vivre Hospitality

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      54:19

      $50M in annual revenue – Mike McDerment, Freshbooks

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      54:40

      $10M+ in annual revenue- Sabri Suby, King Kong

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      54:41

      $36M in annual revenue- Marx Acosta-Rubio, Onestop

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      54:40

      $83M Exit- Sharran Srivatsaa, Teles

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      54:38

      $30M in annual revenue- Colin Wayne, Redline Steel

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      54:40

      $50M in revenue- Steve Layton, Layton Groups

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      54:38

      Multiple 8 and 9 Figure Exits – Roland Frasier

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      54:39

      $10+ M Exit- Dan Kuschell

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      54:29

      $10+ M Exit- Melissa Krivachek, Melissa Krivachek Companies

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      54:29

      $11M Exit- Viki Winterton, Expert Insights Publishing

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      41:29

      $10.5M Exit- Mitch Russo, Timeslips Corporation

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      54:28

      £11.2M Exit- Jonny Cooper, Money Desk

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      54:37

      $4.5B Exit- Christopher Lochhead, Mercury Interactive

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      54:26

      $100M in Annual Revenue – Reid Tracy, Hay House, Inc.

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      54:32

      $20M in Annual Revenue – Anik Singal, Lurn

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      54:37

      Billionaire Naveen Jain, Viome

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      54:40

      Brian Smith | UGG Australia

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      54:29

      Introducing Beyond 8 Figures

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      11:37